Jana and Sebastian are friends from doing comedy in New York City together. Seb is from Staten Island originally and he talks about that being a big part of who he is as an adult. Seb started doing comedy in improv at the age of 20 because his parents told him he needed an outlet. He did theater in high school but was also trying to be an athlete because he wanted to be this man who was tough and didn't have feelings. Sebastian and Jana talk about being anti-athletes in high school but still doing sports for some reason. Both were theater nerds and athletes just out there trying to be cool.
The two discuss how men rarely discuss their actual emotional struggles and how infrequently they actually do. Seb goes to therapy to discuss his issues and he also agrees that men need to have discussions with each other about the cultural climate so as to pass this wisdom onto the next generation. But Sebastian illuminates how truly unemotional men's circles can be and how he shed a lot of those kinds of friends from his life. Seb brings up his upbringing in Staten Island and how that has influenced his need to find spaces that want safety and growth for others. He frequently uses his humor to talk about sensitive issues with his younger male cousins and with his friend circle.
The two agree that we need more men should avoid fetishizing women's bodies and actually appreciating them. While Sebastian argues that most men just love women's bodies, Jana states that women of size are often treated like men's plan B or C if they can't snag a straight-sized woman. It needs to be more socially appropriate for hetero people to find all sizes attractive. Seb talks about how his size makes him unique in the comedy scene. His size gives him a type which made him stand out but he also says that big men in comedy have been ruling the industry since day 1, so he's not marginalized. They laugh about roles for fat people and the types of roles Sebastian goes into auditions for. He describes one audition horrible experience. It's incredible the lengths that people will go with men of size because there isn't a threat of rape or attack. Sebastian describes being called "big guy" every single day. People assume he's comfortable with being called that and also we assume that men aren't senstive about their bodies. Which isn't true at all. Also in the performing world, you're asked to be in compromising positions some time. Sebastian talks about a scene he had to do with famous people he looks up to and how his penis was so small the entire scene. He was so self conscious that the director asked him, "Would you like me to clear the set?"
Sebastian's One Cool Thing is a podcast called Black Men Can't Jump and appreciates that instead of calling out movies that aren't inclusive and promoting diversity, they shout out movies that do! Jana's One Cool Thing is the Instagram account called Color My Flaws Book. It's graphic and wonderful because it's being normalized to look at all types of bodies and body parts.
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