Palmira and Jana go in on all of the different spaces and environments that need to be redesigned. The two unashamedly bash the airline industry and classrooms as two very necessary spaces in an average person's life that exclude people of size with no shame. It's unfortunate that these everyday activities require certain people to have to consider daily losing weight in order to participate. The two women discuss how no one is rioting or marching for fat people, there is still very little education around fatmisia and fatphobia. Mainstream folks do not take body terrorism seriously and for this reason, the discussion has taken a long time to take hold.
Palmira discusses being done with teaching white people, especially after Trump was elected. Jana brings up the next level narrative for women of color when they dip out of the teaching role: "angry Black woman" or "feisty Latina" are labels that Palmira has dealt with her whole life. They honor the ladies out here pushing the pavement and doing the real activist work. They discuss the responsibility of advocacy that falls on privileged people.
Jana asks Palmira about her current hustle. She's concentrating on writing and having a web presence. Palmira discusses her challenging move to LA, feeling uninspired and working through several moves and the comedy scene for women of color. They discuss the unfortunate relief of having a 9-to-5 and how femmes of color do not have the luxury of that poor artist's life. The convo moves toward the comedy hustle and the frustrations of not being granted entry into the industry and the continued challenge of not being big until you're big.
Palmira's One Cool is shouting out Lizzo's new single Fitness. If you haven't listened to Lizzo yet, you must! And follow her socials @lizzobeeating. Her music is everywhere and the only reason she is not famous right now is because she's a woman of size. Jana's One Cool Thing is Project 562, a Native photography project founded by Matika Wilbur. Check out her work and her journey and donate! She's also on the socials and you should follow her there.
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